Mention of Palace Music makes me wonder how many stallions which started their careers in New Zealand did equally as well when relocated to Australia.
The rationale behind these relocations, usually involving a sale or part-sale of the stallion in question, has been that if they’re proven good in poor cousin New Zealand – and why else would an Australian stud want them? - they can’t help but be as good or better in Australia.
I don't think so.
Palace Music did achieve a reasonable level of success in Australia. He had had only four seasons sucked out of him before he got here.
Success Express had a season in Australia then did a stint in New Zealand during which he did very well, especially given his lower fertility. We raised two G1 winners by him at Haunui. Of the stallions I can think of, off the top of my head – I’m on holiday and don’t have the library with me – he is one of the few who has brought his proper game to Australia. He was bought by Peter Moran at the end of the Holmes a’Court days at Trelawney.
From about the 1960s onwards, there have been plenty of sires to have crossed the ditch in a westerly direction. A few others I can recall include Agricola, Amyntor, Bigstone, Cape Cross, Carnegie, Centro, Citidancer, Desert Sun, Kenfair, Otehi Bay, Pag-Asa, Rhythm, Ruling, Sea Anchor, Sky Chase and Zephyr Bay. Cape Cross still has it ahead of him but few if any of the others materially improved their place in history. Some fell flat on their faces.
Are there any I’ve missed from recent decades who have had a siring career of distinction in Australia after getting off the mark in New Zealand, or is it generally expecting too much from a horse who has had the first five or six seasons taken out him?
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Thousand Guineas Prelude winner Ortensia, trainer Tony Noonan. Love those nostrils and ears (the filly's).
Fastnet Rock/Rare Insight 2YO colt. Tr J O'Shea
Danzero/Global Dance 2YO colt. Tr G Waterhouse
Canadian 2YO stakeswinner and young broodmare Chelsey's Image (Holy Bull-Lucky Chelsey), in foal to Dylan Thomas (Ire)
Golan/Double Owe 2YO colt, named Double Whisky. Tr C Waller
Redoute's Choice/Volted In 2YO filly. Tr G Waterhouse
Hussonet/Portrayal 2YO filly, named Bolocco Miss. Tr C Waller
Anabaa/Regal Fun 2YO colt. Tr C Waller.
High Chaparral, sire of the Kaapentyne 2YO colt. Tr C Little.
More Than Ready/Rachael's Pride 2YO colt, named Our Corsa. Tr C Waller
Charge Forward/Zerlina 2YO filly, named Passing By. Tr Robert Price
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USA stakeswinner and young broodmare Les Ry Leigh (Broken Vow-Azusa), in foal to Rock Of Gibraltar (Ire)
Hussonet's G1 winning 2YO champion filly La Chiflota
Group winner Rockwood (Rock Of Gibraltar-Foxwood, by Centaine). Tr G Waterhouse
Gr 1 winning mare Absolut Glam (Snowland-Pine Away, by Pine Bluff). Tr D O'Brien.
5 comments:
Hi Steve
I wouldn't neccessarily call Desert Sun a flop at stud having produced 3 group 1 winning mares in Sunline,Our Egyptian Reigne & La Bella Dama.Most studs would like all their stallions to have a record like that!!!
Hi Steve
Speaking of that great mare Sunline,did you know that not one of her Dam Songline's other foals ever run a place ,12 in all yet she won 31 races and 11.6mil.
Doesn't always add up that breeding caper ??????
You've completely misunderstood the point of my post. Those three mares were all bred when Desert Sun was in New Zealand; I'm asking what stallions have done as well AFTER they have been transferred to Australia? Desert Sun has so far had 7 Australian bred SW, the best of them G3, and hasn't done a bad job, but not better. Also your assertion re Songline, dam of Sunline, is not correct. She has had only 7 named foals. Apart from Sunline, one has been placed and another has won one race. But I get your point! Sunline's family has thrown up plenty of good horses (starting at Phar Lap) and she does possess a cute pedigree (obviously). Backing up the theme of one of my earlier posts, the only other winner out of the mare is by the same sire, Desert Sun, which clearly was a mating 'meant to be'. Sunline looked and behaved unlike most mares.
Another stallion that will be interesting to assess will be Coolmore's Tale Of The Cat. He put together good figures with his one and only NZ crop, 68.7% winners-to-starters and 8.4% stakeswinners-to-starters. He has had four Australian crops of which the oldest are now 3YOs (was sent back home this year post-EI and missed serving a bumper book). So far he had 3 first crop Australian-bred stakeswinners which is a fair start considering the effects of EI to date.
Hi Steve
After posting my previous blog i realised you did mean NZ bred.As you said he did throw a couple of handy ones in Great is Great,Abdullah & Strikeline here but nowhere near the same types as those NZ group 1 winners.
Also Songline did only an ordinary job with her other foals after throwing a champion.
It was a long time ago i looked it up & the main point i recalled was that they were 40 lengths inferior to the champ and that is being kind
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