Transparency? I Can't See It.

The sales season will begin in late January. An article appeared on Breednet during December stating that “transparency in thoroughbred trading is a major issue”.

I'd like to know what open and frank discussion has taken place on this subject in this part of the world?

Perhaps the writer was referring to recent high-profile cases involving shady practices and secret commissions in the USA, resulting in seven-figure settlements in favour of plaintiffs, with auction houses and consignors scurrying to formulate fairly toothless codes of practice.

But no, it was a local reference.

Expecting a loose collection of free enterprisers (I hesitate to use the word ‘industry’) to reform themselves from within is a big and improbable ask, especially as some of the actors and institutions who might be involved in the process may be amongst those most discomfited by the outcomes.

Strengthening the integrity of the sale process can only be in the game’s best interests.

The term ‘horse trading’ was coined a long, long time ago. It still carries an unwholesome connotation. Similarly, vocations such as ‘used car salesman’, ‘lawyer’ or ‘politician’ have been given a life of their own. The connotation goes something like this: be wary, this man may appear to be your servant but, uwittingly, you might be his.

There are Joe Publics who suspect that the inside of the horse business isn’t kosher. There are some within the business who think the same, subscribing to the belief that wads of money and corruption go hand-in-hand.

It’s said that the only people who oppose rorts are those who have never had the chance to be involved in one.

And after years of being around sales, I’ve even encountered a few buffoons who aren’t happy unless someone is ripping them off – they pass it off as a kind of rite of passage into the inner sanctum.

In good times, like the last decade, the wheels of business have been so well lubricated that issues such as propriety, transparency, ethical practices etc have scarcely rated a mention because we’ve all been too busy counting.

If one day, because of a change in political wind or plain bad publicity, a regulator is empowered to take a closer look at the horse business, it may not be a pleasant day.

If you are someone who has been buying and/or selling for any great length of time, chances are you will be aware of or been invited to become part of some practice which in other-world commerce can result in fines or even imprisonment but which goes unchecked in the thoroughbred world - inducements, secret commissions, price fixing, bid rigging.

Commerce is commerce and I can only think of one reason why a blind eye is turned to an activity which turns over hundreds of millions of dollars. I suspect the thinking is, why get in the middle of a game being played only amongst the wealthy? If someone makes a squillion at the expense of someone else who has a squillion, does it really matter? They deserve each other. If sale prices which defy logic are window-dressing, sleight-of-hand or smoke-and-mirrors, who is getting hurt? (well, breeders are, indirectly, but that’s another story).

In Australia, there is regulation at the lower end of the market through the licensing of syndicators. This supposedly protects the man-in-the-street investor (typically someone spending between $4,000 - $20,000 for a share in a horse) as syndicators have to adhere to standards of disclosure. Syndicators require a licence and their paperwork is subject to approval before the offer goes public.

In addition to the purchase price, there are significant costs incurred before a syndicator puts a horse to bed. He may put whatever ‘profit margin’ he likes on the horse and personally I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Go to a licensed restaurant and you’ll find a difference between the price on the wine list and what you would have paid for the same bottle at the grog shop down the road. A potential share purchaser can decide whether he wants to be involved after he has looked at the prospectus. Just like the restaurant owner and the wine in his cellar, if a syndicator doesn’t want to be left carrying the goods, he has to make the offer attractive enough.

Where there is no protection for the ‘small investor’, however, is if the horse was acquired via a rort in the first place. One example would be a silently-owned horse being put through a sale by the syndicator only to be “bought” by him at a price which, when it’s syndicated subsequently, ensures a fat profit. Or one where a vendor and the syndicator agree on a price before the auction.

(PS: so I don’t get any strongly-worded mail from female syndicators, the word ‘she’ is interchangeable with the word ‘he’ in the above paragraphs).

The auction system is where the thoroughbred business can start some reform.

A high-priced yearling these days costs about the same as a Potts Point townhouse with ‘harbour glimpses’. Housing is a community need so performance standards apply to the real estate agent, the vendor and even bidders at auction. On the other hand, no one needs a horse (just one letter difference, house and horse). Horses are an indulgence, hence Rafferty’s rules.

There are numerous transparency issues. They can’t be rolled into one blog, so I will propose a simple start point:

Why can’t I know exactly who owns the horses that are being offered for sale?

That can’t be too much to ask. How much privacy is the actual owner/s entitled to?

If I am buying a house I search the title. I can see who owns it and what financial obligations exist. As at thoroughbred auctions, the agent is the agent for the vendor but I have the opportunity to know who I am dealing with and what behaviour can be expected of the parties.

If I am looking to buy a big stake in a company I can examine the share register to see who I am falling into bed with.

If I am buying a car, I can check beforehand that everything’s ridgy-didge.

As a horse buyer, I would like the same comfort in the sales ring (or indeed in a private treaty sale). The vendor wants me to hand over my money. Who is the vendor? The sale company should not be shielding that information from me.

The information may colour my attitude to the sale. The reasons may be business or personal. For example, I may hold the view that this vendor has the ability to pervert the bidding in some way and create what I think might be a false market. That shouldn’t be confused with running a horse up to its reserve - I think that’s quite legitimate. In an ideal world the bidding ought to start there!

Or it may be someone with whom I’ve had unsatisfactory dealings and I don’t want to give him the benefit of my custom. Or the horse may be a foal-share arrangement and perhaps I don’t want to bid against those who bid in 50 cent dollars. Or I’d like to know if a sales company employee or bloodstock agent is involved in the ownership thereby possibly creating a conflict of interest. Or perhaps the vendor is the guy who ran off with my wife.

The position of the auction houses is interesting. The proprietorship of Magic Millions are up-front and highly visible traders, but not so some of their operational staff. On the other hand, William Inglis and its staff appear to be at arm’s length, but I couldn’t be 100% sure until I ask them the question or someone tells me. New Zealand Bloodstock is owned by a major consignor and some staff are also involved in ownership. There is a glaring need for transparency when sales companies with vested interests also finance some of their customers – both sellers and buyers - control credit and are responsible for filling buying orders.

So what can I do to find out ownership information?

Firstly, I can rarely find out by looking in the sales catalogue. Most horses are catalogued under draft names.

Secondly, there’s little point looking at the Stud Book website as that only shows who bred the horse. While that might be a guide, it’s ancient history as anything could have happened since foaling.

Thirdly, asking the consignor isn’t always fruitful and shouldn’t be necessary. Many consignors willingly supply the information but others can be coy about it. There are some owners who are happiest when others don’t know they are involved.

Compare this situation with racing. I can pick up the race book or go to a website and find all the owners listed for today’s runners. To have an unregistered interest in a racehorse is a breach of the Rules. It threatens integrity.

Ideally, I would like to see a section of each catalogue – an index of ownership - set aside to list the ownership of each lot, provided by stat dec if necessary. However, a more space-friendly solution would be to have a section of the auctioneer’s website where the information can be referenced.

Furthermore, it should be a condition of sale, as it is now in the USA, that if anything more than 10% of a horse is sold since being catalogued, that a notice to this effect is required and an announcement is made by the auctioneer. Payment of proceeds can be made conditional on these requirements being met.

Any semi-devious human mind can think of ways of getting round these requirements - secret arrangements of the nudge-nudge, wink,wink variety. But there’s no guarantee that the ugly scenarios which have played out in the USA can’t be replicated here. Why wait, we should start changing the culture.

I’d be interested in comments as to why vendors at public auction are entitled to any particular rights of privacy.

Sales companies have the right to ask for my credentials and those of my principals before accepting my bids. Buyers shouldn’t have to resort to the Official Information Act to find out who they are buying a horse from.

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Spot on. The due diligence which attaches to business seems to take a 90 degree turn when it comes to dealings in thoroughbreds.

I see transparency as a bigger issue at the purchase end of the deal rather than the sale end of the deal though. One so often sees the attendant media frenzy surrounding the sale of a high priced "perfect" yearling and on the sale sheet it "appears" that is has been knocked down to trainer x or y.

Surprise, surprise, when the horse is registered to race which colours is the horse racing in but the ones of the "vendor" who put him/her through the ring.

Every breeder/vendor has a legitimate right to buy back in to a horse, and I have eminent respect for those breeders who put their dollars on the line and race their horses/part of their horses as it's not an inexpensive journey, but why the cloak of secrecy come sale day? You can't tell me it is "fear of being bid up in the ring" - the Inghams sit in full view of every other buyer and bid openly and with confidence, bowing out if they are out bid, but pursuing other horses if they want them.

Sadly I suspect the "excuses" have more to do with vendors wanting to run up a sires average, create artificial prices to then justify media hype and service fee increases, or just because they have been getting away with it for years and continue to do so.

The racing industry could have benefited from a Royal Commission Inquiry years ago ...

Anonymous said...

Opened up a can of worms here then haven't you Mr. Brem! All points raised are more than valid and have been ongoing issues within the industry since its inception but....surely as a purchaser at the end of the day the points of purchase are: -

1) Do I want this item and how much am I willing to pay for it?

2) Is this item 100% sound and if not, how much of a risk am I willing to take on it and at what cost reduction?

3) Am I purchasing this item as cheaply as possible?

It is point three that is the cause of your dilemas as at auction you are at the mercies of the market place. Therefore the only question you have if you have chosen to buy at auction is "how much do I pay"? If there are other factors that are swaying your desire to purchase the item then you need to shop in a different market place. I know of no auction place that gives the vendors details unsolicited, only those that give product history and/or discription.
I wish you all the best in revolutionising the thoroughbred auction houses and suspect that you will have more than just a few supporters in your crusade!

Anonymous said...

Valid points Steve. I act on both sides seller & purchaser. I would love to see the industry/game become more transparent. As a seller I have no fear in letting the truth being told. You ask the question & I will give you an honest answer. I often ask questions as a seller too, normally to agents such as yourself. Questions such as 'who are you buying for?' I normally don't get an answer. As a purchaser I ask many questions and again, I seldom get answers. It will take years maybe generations to change the current system of buying & selling horses. At the end of the day, if you are not happy with the situation surrounding the horse you are trying to buy, walk away. There are plenty more fish in the sea.

DD Thoroughbred Racing said...

Point made Steve; I (like Sam above) also believe that agents need to be more forthright before commenting. The fear of "if they know who is interested in buying they may raise the reserve on me or bid me up" causing agent transparency problems;

New Zealand at least have the option of including the owners details as part of the information in the catalogue underneath the As agent info for those so inclined; What i do find interesting is that if you want to add more information for the purchaser such as "bred or reared at such and such commercial stud" you are not allowed as this falls out of line with the "cataloging standards" apparently used within Australia and NZ??; (As told to me by NZB)

Leading trainers and now others have long been accused of purchasing this lot or that lot before or even during the sale BUT prior to it going thru the sale ring; moreso i feel to allow for inhouse syndication at the highest price; For at least the last twenty years we have been seeing trainers buy from the stud who is selling the lot in the first place to train the horse for the stud;

This also has the ramifications of allowing the studs to achieve the better stallion sales averages and of course lets not forget the biggie, "Stallion Fees" for next year that breeders have to pay; Expect more of this as the purchasing dollar for New Stallions continues to spiral seemingly out of control;

As a side bar:
For information of those interested Auctions of Real Estate do show the full owners description at every auction; It appears in the Contract of Sale which HAS to be dispalyed in full open sight at every auction and normally selling agents display this at the latter inspections of the property just prior to Auction for interested purchasers;

Anonymous said...

Steve - great blog. Thanks Breednet for bringing it to my attention.

The comments so far seem to have swerved into what the purchaser/agent can do rather than the original point of the post and that is transparency of ownership. The golden rule is: He who has the gold (the purchaser) makes the rules. If the seller is wary of the purchaser he simply avoids auctions.

And speaking of auctions - Steve's comments about the owner(s) having the right to "run the price up" is valid. Sometimes, auctions need every bidder they can get. However, and I'm sure I am not the first to suggest this idea, making all auctions unreserved might bring some reality to the market if the vendor knows that he has to pay the commission on his own purchase.

Getting back to the transparency discussion, if it is a breach of the rules to have a registration that includes an undisclosed interest, why can't the Stud Book and the racing authorities simply compare notes. Instead of registering a named (future) racehorse, why not register the unnamed foal the same way?

Maybe that's too simple.....

As for lawyers, a guy who was having a rough time during divorce
proceedings walks into bar, sits down and declares loudly that all lawyers are a***holes. A nearby drunk calls out "I object to that comment", to which the first guy says: "Why, are you a lawyer? The drunk says: "No, I'm an a***hole."

Anonymous said...

Another who think your comments are spot on.

If there was to be a Royal Commission held into the horse selling/breeding/auction business, it would make the Fitzgerald Inquiry look like a garden tea party.

As a former hobbyist who played the breeding game for many years, I learnt the hard way of the rorts, the decpetion, the cons and the fraud which far too many people play. And make no mistake, these people/businesses come from all backgrounds - with many household names - involved in the 'game'. As a result I have made a hasty retreat from the breeding caper and want no further part of it.

It is high time that some authority had the balls to legitimise the industry so that all transactions are transparent

Anonymous said...

Well Steve you’ve said the unspeakable and good on you.
The rorts at the sales should be stopped. It is Fraud
I hope that someone who has been ripped off will complain to ASIC
As you said it is widely known that rorting is rife. Here a few examples of how they play the game
• Purchasing a horse prior to it going into the ring so the vendors or agent get a sling. Then running it up to an inflated often ridiculous value to enable undisclosed profit by syndicators
• Stud Farms running up yearlings to protect the service fee of the NEW stallion by selling them to fictitious purchasers
• Vendors pretending to sell a horse to a trainer at a highly inflated price when it has not had 1 legitimate bid (in some cases) the trainer then syndicating the horse to stable clients at the inflated price. The trainer cops a big sling if he achieves the goal.
• Sales companies spotting the sale topper or toppers prior to the sale and then setting up pretend bidders and a pretend buyer to knock then down to boost sale averages
• Conflicts of interest within sales companies owners or staff when nominating and selling

Apart from the obvious ramifications the end result of these practices (that some one or many individuals get taken for the preverbal), influence extends to Stallion purchasing then Stallion fees then Stallion matings then selling decisions. It causes buyers to over spend on service fees and mares and weanlings. It causes buyers to make uninformed or knowingly incorrect decisions because those decisions are based on bullshit.

I have an opinion that any sale over $100,000 is highly suspect.

If a vendor is not in the JOKE then they are often spurned and ridiculed. They are told their stock is inferior and non commercial. Vendors often wonder why agents do not look at their horses. They pay all the legitimate charges and are treated very shabbily.
Preferred Purchases are given hidden lists of vendors to inspect their stock exclusively.

Your comment “It’s said that the only people who oppose rorts are those who have never had the chance to be involved in one. Is probably on the money but you can’t blame them for feeling like that when it’s not up to them who gets the right of passage. If you are not in the rort its tough. The rorters want to belittle anyone who inquires into the lack of logic in a price paid or a stallion fee etc

I have hoped for a long time that these practices are stopped but after inquiring if my suspicions are worth pursuing I have been told more than once that without evidence nothing can be done

STEVE BREM said...

Notron, you should take a valium. I did not say rorting is rife. I said that if you hang around the business long enough you will become aware of practices which are frowned upon in other areas of commerce and are indeed unhealthy. They are far from universal as you'd have us believe. However, I think any attempt to strengthen the integrity of the sale process cannot harm in the long run. I picked this would be a touchy subject but some people are getting a major rush of blood to the head in responding to this subject and are leaving reality behind when they hit the keyboard. Your opinion that any sale over $100,000 is highly suspect is rubbish.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for that Steve as “I said I have an opinion” You put a figure on it if you want the amount is irrelevant. The point is it’s not all kosher. You can’t back away now you opened up the discussion.
These practices do happen. They are fraud.
The industry would be better served if they did not occur.
People leave the industry because they see the real picture when they look hard. Thats not good.
ASIC regulate syndicators as though they are financial advisors regardless of the price involved.
The complete industry needs to be looked at not 1 section in isolation.
The real estate practices were cleaned up a few years ago
The same should happen in the bloodstock industry.
Reality is not being left behind at all. That comment is rubbish. What has happened is some practices that some players thought was only between mates are widely known and people are Not Happy Jan about it.
Even if it is not WIDE spread you can’t say it’s OK if it only happens a little.

Anonymous said...

I'm not backing away from the subject for a moment - I raised it! It's just that some of the statements and claims IMHO are quite outlandish. This is a family blog so we have to moderate our language.

Anonymous said...

I had been a yearling buyer for 15 years but gave up on the industry about 4 years ago, agreed there are rorts and more rorts which no one will ever will prevent, bloodstock agents to my mind are people who buy horses with other peoples money and only talk about their successes, they can become a registered agent without any prior qualifications or performance criteria; all they need is right contacts, flash clothes, plenty of gold jewellery, and a big mouth; as an immediate pain relief I would like to see every yearling blood tested for pain killers and steroids prior to every sale; there are several yearling preparers who would make Mickey Rooney look like a WWW wrestling champ, thanfully a lot of people know that if they buy one of these yearlings in 4 weeks after their purchase they will wonder where it went ?? yearling drug testing would cost peanuts in comparison to the overall sale averages; imagine the poor sales company which insists all yearlings are drug tested - they would be out of business; yes its true horse racing is the sport of kings and crims, neither seem to get caught only the unsucpecting general public. A signed stat dec declaring who is in the ownership of the yearling lodged prior to the sale by vendors of every yearling will be simple but also help; then after the sale a stat dec by the vendor and sales company that no secret comissions have been paid is lodged; its a long bow but I wonder if ASIC is aware yearling sales exist; if the recent petrol enquiry is any guide one wonders how the hell people like Rodney Adley ever got caught - they must have felt pangs of guilt and handed themselves in, if ASIC can't get to the bottom of petrol price rorts the existing bloodstock industry is in great shape for continuing its mammoth charade and fraudulent tactics.

Anonymous said...

Some people just get sucked in by the 'Gold jewelry,big mouths' etc.Does like attract like?
There are plenty of down to earth concientious agents who want to do the right thing by their clients. Isn't that right Steve?

STEVE BREM said...

Have no idea which agents our blogger had in mind when referring to the 'flash clothes and plenty of gold jewellery'. I've seen a few buyers who fit the description. My only gold is in my teeth. Yes, I'm sure there are numerous agents conducting responsible and ethical business.

Anonymous said...

Great blog.
It is very obvious to anybody who has been in the horse business for any length of time that most participants havn't got a clue.
How many trainers do you know who have never heard of rattles?
How many yearling buyers (trainers, agents & owners) know what they are looking for at a yearling sale? - they stand outside the box looking important and terribly profound and they see nothing - because that is about what they know.
On another tack - why do some studs achieve million dollar sales and yet they dont produce Group 1 winners??
How many trainers - including the "greats" inspect yearlings in the paddock?? - in other words they see them for the first time at the sales.
I am a breeder & vendor of drug free horses - and they win

And many, many more questions.
Your comments please Steve

DD Thoroughbred Racing said...

As going by some of the more serious commentaries here the transparency issue goes farther than the sales.

Come on gang if you have a point and or an issue with the industry please stand by your comments and post a name with your comments and claims.

I have been racing, purchasing and selling in this industry for over 20 years now. I am not a big player and all of my dealings are hobbyist in nature but because of the love and lifestyle the racing industry can afford me, i see more in the industry than just some of these minor issues.

As one of the posters stated here, it really is an easy decision. IF YOU LIKE THE HORSE BUY IT, IF NOT FIND ANOTHER!

The only point of conjecture i have with Steve on this issue is more with i dont care who bred or owns the horse if i like it and believe it is value i will buy it. If they have run off with my wife they probably have the worse end of the stick.

Cheers to all of you for 2008.
http://asiapacifichorseracing.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

You seem not to like the can of worms you have opened Steve.
Don’t back away. You started this and it was refreshing. All this needs is little momentum and you never know, honest practices will be the norm. It will take a clean out. We are not as stupid as the practitioners of the scams think we know what they are doing and like all rationes of the non straight variety they get braver and braver and then they get caught. Most of the industry can see the Joke and we don’t like it. A level playing field is what is needed.

Anonymous said...

To the last three bloggers, my comments are: ANONYMOUS: you sell a great many people short. Remember, this business is an imperfect science with massive variables and wasteage, so the value of luck/chance can never be underestimated. The best one can do is to eliminate as many of the risk factors as possible. And as far as prices go, sales are fashion parades. Never blame a horse for what some human is prepared to pay for it. To DD, mate, you don't think much of your wife! I can live with your take-it-leave-it approach as long as you are consistent in other areas: happy to buy a car or a flat screen TV without warranties from some bloke in the pub; insure your household contents without reading the policy; buy shares in a float without reading the prospectus (you mightn't like every member of the Board!) - my point is the kind of comforts which we take for granted in other transactions aren't always available in the horse business. And to NOTRON, I agree but sweeping generalisations weaken the case.

Anonymous said...

Well Steve those comforts you refer to ( “my point is the kind of comforts which we take for granted in other transactions aren't always available in the horse business”)in other industries should be available in the horse industry and in fact we as members of society assume and demand that they are. There is a big difference in dealing with a guy at the pub selling a TV which you know is not a kosher deal.
At an auction if the buyers knew what went on behind the scenes they would not bid.
I will give you an example so as not to generalize ( by the way I don’t understand your point there)
A guy buys a weanling pays 50k. Nice horse Pin hooking is his aim.
Gets a sales company to look at it. after purchase They call him an idiot for paying 50k The horse was worth 15K on pedigree. Value it at $30k as a yearling
Mistakes by purchaser
1. Did not know he would be run up by shrewd vendor
2. let the vendor know he was going to buy it
3. inspected it too many times
4. Trusted the vendor as he was known by the vendor
5. took the sales company on their word that if he bought it would get into top sales
6. said the sales company advised him it would be good value up to 50K

None of those things is illegal but they are unethical and geed is what this was all about. Good intentioned purchaser is burnt and now does not trust the whole industry
Were the crook practice is that fictitious bids were used to con this guy. Any experienced person in the industry who has looked at the horse values it up to $25k on pedigree.
If no dummy bids were used this guy would have bought it for the 25k most likely
It is possible that 2 fools could combine on the same horse but most unlikely.
When people buy at auctions they expect them to be straight.
Now I doubt that I could fall into the trap but its possible. I have to be vigilant. My point is I should (so should everyone) be able to be confident that the environment I deal in is honest. I want it to be and it should be.
People should not have to look for the scam in every transaction
To DD I have no intention of identifying myself. The only reason I can put these things forward is the anonymity. It is after all a blog for discussion.